Sometimes people say "why bother?" when I go on anti war demos, "what difference will it make" they ask?
I have lost count of how many demos I've done since my first anti-Vietnam war demo in 1968 when I was a young member of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) shocking the neighbourhood with my highly prized 'make love not war' badge.
So now after many years of marching and campaigning with CND comrades it gives me great pleasure to congratulate them, and the Public Interest Lawyers (PIL) and the wider UK anti-war movement in general.... and dammit for the second time in a couple of weeks.... even to congratulate the British government on their reported decision to refuse Washington's request to use British based military facilities in pursuit of an illegal war against Iran.
The recent decision not to allow the extradition of Gary McKinnon to the United States is I think interestingly contextualised by the release of this information reported in the Guardian yesterday and tweeted by CND this afternoon.
According to the press release from UK leading civil rights lawyer Phil Shiner's PIL website
"On
Friday 18 May 2012, the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) sent a
letter to the Prime Minister, David Cameron, setting out their concerns
at recent rhetoric emanating from Israel and the USA about the
possibility of pre-emptive military action being taken against Iran. In
anticipation of talks with Iranian officials due to take place in
Baghdad from 23 May, the letter warns the UK against engaging in, or
supporting, illegal military action."
Not wanting to do a Blair the UK government sought legal advice on whether or not any such request from the United States government to use British (and Irish) airbases and other facilities as part of an offensive against Iran was legal in accordance with international law. The advice they received was that it would not be legal to render such aid to the US or its collaborators under those circumstances.
It was reported in The Guardian on 25 October that:-
" Britain has rebuffed US pleas to use military
bases in the UK to support the build-up of forces in the Gulf, citing
secret legal advice which states that any pre-emptive strike on Iran could be in breach of international law.
The
Guardian has been told that US diplomats have also lobbied for the use
of British bases in Cyprus, and for permission to fly from US bases on
Ascension Island in the Atlantic and Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean,
both of which are British territories.
The US approaches are part
of contingency planning over the nuclear standoff with Tehran, but
British ministers have so far reacted coolly. They have pointed US
officials to legal advice drafted by the attorney general's office which
has been circulated to Downing Street, the Foreign Office and the
Ministry of Defence."
The submission to the UK government by the attorney general concludes that
(1) In present circumstances, and in the absence of any UN Security Council resolution authorising the use of force against Iran, it would clearly be contrary to international law for the US to attack Iran and for the UK or Ireland knowingly to assist that attack, for example by permitting the use of an airbase by US aircraft on bombing missions.
(2) It is reasonably arguable that, in English public law, it would be unlawful for the UK Government to give such assistance.
(2) It is reasonably arguable that, in English public law, it would be unlawful for the UK Government to give such assistance.
So, not to put too finer point on it, the current president of the United States who is presently campaigning for re-election apparently heads an administration that was and probably still is considering committing an act of flagrant war in complete defiance of international law and who seemingly expected the British government to have rubber stamped this insane adventure in a similar way they have other war crimes in the recent past and for that matter, in the rather more distant past too.
The very fact that it was CND and PIL that initiated this legal review of the lawfulness in Britain (or Ireland) participating in a pre-emptive strike against yet another sovereign state (only now without any UN mandate, largely due thankfully to the opposition of Russia and China in the Security Council) it has served to limit the ambitions of the potentially illegal aggressors howling for more blood to the west and to the southeast of us.
This story also computes actually in terms of recent attempts by PNAC to have their asset in charge of policing in Lincolnshire, which is the county that hisorically was home to US airbases and may have been thought of as freindly toward the US military.
Well bad luck PNAC you were rumbled and chased out of town with your candidate in tow. Funnily enough the investigative journalists took an interest because Mervyn Barratt's campaign to become Police Commissioner in the pay of a foreign world domination cult was unusually slick and 'professional' by local standards...in other words it looked out of place in England's electoral environment, it had an odd smell about it and that musk was the psychopathic testosterone of PNAC. It is a lesson for the opinion formers in America that it was the very Americanism of this PNAC brainchild that created all the suspicion and hostility in the first place, that drove their road show out of town before they barely had chance to fire up their laptops.... what on earth did they think toffs are for? ...does PNAC stand for Psychotic North American Chumps?.....if the cap fits and all that.
But you can see what was going through the warped minds of these global domination fantasists can't you? They simply don't understand the way things work around here, because if they did they would not have bothered in the first place. Outside central London they just don't blend in, we don't do extravaganza politics.... no politician here has got the credibility to pull it off.
Anyway.... as much as it hurts me to say it, - for the timebeing at least, well done to the Cameron/Clegg Con Dems who have made the insanity that is apparently seething across the water somewhat less doable it seems .... and it is undoubtedly a good thing for us all that the government have been compelled to listen to the voice of reason, and they have on this occasion so-far obeyed the laws of civilised conduct in this matter. Today number 10 flatly refused to be drawn on the reports that the Government had rebuffed a
plea by the US for its forces to be allowed to use not only these bases in Britain, but also in Cyprus and on Ascension Island in the Atlantic and Diego
Garcia in the Indian Ocean to support the military build-up in the Gulf.
So when somebody says to me "why bother ?" ....I answer 'because it may just stop the world from being plunged back into the pre-cambrian mud by an unholy alliance between war criminals, adverising geeks and cavemen/woman destroying the planet just to keep the Zionists and the Wahabis sweet. Really.....I don't think so Mr Kristol.
The Guardian reports the last word on the British position on the threat of illegal war against Iran as it stood yesterday:-
A Foreign Office spokesman said: "As we continue to make clear, the
government does not believe military action against Iran is the right
course of action at this time, although no option is off the table. We
believe that the twin-track approach of pressure through sanctions,
which are having an impact, and engagement with Iran is the best way to
resolve the nuclear issue. We are not going to speculate about scenarios
in which military action would be legal. That would depend on the
circumstances at the time."
The Foreign Office said it would not disclose whether the attorney general's advice has been sought on any specific issue.
A
US state department official said: "The US and the UK co-ordinate on
all kinds of subjects all the time, on a huge range of issues. We never
speak on the record about these types of conversations."
Long may that forebearing be the case, there is no appetite here for more war and now it feels like Obama's regime are a busted flush, nobody cares what they think any more here or outside of Democrat heartlands in America.... pretty much anywhere else it seems.
Well, something is changing in Britain, AA, and I think groups lke the CND have done the spadework for it.
ReplyDeleteDenying bases for an offensive "Pearl Harbor" in reverse is exactly the sort of thing that will help bring some reason to the problems between Israel and Iran, fingers crossed.
It 's clear to me that any protests in public have a vital role to play in changing minds and policies even if they don't pay off right away.
It's clear that Cameron and Clegg have learned from the distaste the Blair government has incurred that they must distance themselves from the hawks in Congress and the Pentagon.
Americans have to do more than their share to keep us out of another war in the Middle East no matter who is elected. Clearly Romney leans further toward making common cause with the Neo-Cons, and it is alos clear to me Americans who are not drinking the kool-aid of ""nation building" are sick of war and want a process, not a war, and one leading to discussion and peaceful resolutions.
This is one more step in the right direction.
Thanks for that Doug. I think the Con Dems have been backed into a corner in one way by making the so-called Big Society the central plank of UK social policy. The Big Society doesn't like the idea of war with Iran nor playing second fiddle to Israeli nutters.
DeleteThis is also a get-out clause for the Con Dems of caurse who can say "it was them that made us do it." Yes it gets more like the the former Libyan Socialist Jamahiriya around here every day as direct democracy takes off like wildfire across the localities.
But back to the election.
Romney is obviously a complete dimwit, it is I think a discernable pattern in US presidential politics to alternate conmen and dimwits as often as possible.
For example GW Bush was mentally subnormal, but Mitt Romney is just patholigically simpleminded in the Dan Quayle mode, it doesn't really matter though because he won't win, he's the joker hahaha.....unless Hurricane Sandy causes such chaos that the chads hang to the right as opposed to the also right the place where the left has been pencilled in... but has not again turned up.
So in an odd sort of way it is the people and the organisations that represent specific issue pressure groups that are an expression of the will of the people that have said no to America and the lawyers have backed us up.
Having learned from Blair's duplicity CND have pre-empted the PM asking for legal advice when under pressure to act and have arranged a clear rebuttal of any attempt by any state to act illegally and commit war crimes with the collusion of the UK and I think Ireland.
I like the sort of devolution that has CND making defence policy, I think we non-aligned social entrepreneurs are winning the argument hands down, some things we simply will not agree to and World War Three is one of them. Sorry Barack and Binyamin... but shit happens so just get over it!
But still we all need to stand shoulder to shoulder to stop this war crime taking place, we are working on our government and it is only to be hoped that everyone else is doing the same.
Sanity must prevail here. We'd rather see nuclear disarmament here in the UK and right across the globe including the US, Russia, China and Israel ..... before we'd support a war to stop it being developed in Iran.
That's the deal from the Big Society over here I think Doug and now its UK policy too.
well done to the coalition for refusing to roll over to the American Government,(for the second time in two weeks) At last the UK Government seems to be finding the ability to just say NO. I know there isn't a whole lot of difference between our major political parties but I'm still surprised its this lot and not the other lot who have FINALLY stood up to the Americans. I'm in danger of developing a grudging respect for them.
ReplyDelete" I'm in danger of developing a grudging respect for them."
DeleteHold on before that happens Loretta, first consider their options....did these Tory and Lib Dem ministers want to repeat what Blair did to his perpetual damnation, I don't think so. The legal advice is their get out of prison card and they know that another Obama/Israeli/Saudi led war crime against another sovereign country has no support in this country.
Nobody I've heard is saying I'd be proud to serve Mobil Exxon and BA Systems in Iran and lay down my life for Barack Obama, Dave Cameron and Nick Clegg in another neo-nazi war crime against humanity in the Middle East.
So they might seem to have scruples.... but they are our scruples and it is their necks on the electoral chopping block... so the calculation was not too testing for most of the Con Dem alliance camp followers I don't think.
That's what Mr Cameron's bottom-up Big Society is all about after all, taking the blame for giving Washington the thumbs down twice in as many weeks.
The Con Dems can just shrug and say to their US counterparts - 'its what the people want and what the lawyers say is legal, sorry but no can do'....and it's all true.
''Hold on before that happens Loretta'',
Deletedon't worry, I wasn't quite there, but the 'twice in two weeks' was a bit overwhelming. Like you said, it just shows that being vocal and persistant does pay off in the end. I know they did it because they wanted ( needed ) to be seen to be listening to the people, but ultimatly the fact that they did it is whats important.........Now every one needs to keep the pressure up and hopefully they will do the right thing more often.
I'm happy to hear the banking cartel masquerading as a government was denied AA.. I would go do some back-flips but I'd probably dislocate a hip...
ReplyDeleteEqually happy to hear Gary is not headed for Guantanamo...
Steady on Scott....glad the current situation cheers you up....but back flips sound risky lol
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